As most people know yesterday I spammed the network hard, I wanted to try out what i call block-blocking. Sending out spam to fill the blocks so no one else can (it was the developers who made the 60 transaction limit what did they expect would happen?). For some reason they couldn't understand why i would do that, I explained to them that when NEM goes live it will be attacked. Why? Well it's an alt-coin which the btc crowd doesn't like, there are people tired of hearing about how fair NEM is then having stakes removed and how NEM is going to change the world. I am not saying these are valid points just how some people will look at NEM plus there are also just people out there who like to watch the world burn (stolen movie line).
The developers said that this wouldn't happen when goes live because it will cost real NEM, my point is that it will take no more then 100,000 NEM to bring down the network which really isn't that expensive for someone who doesn't like alt-coins. The developers didn't think this was possible. So my challenge:
The developers make two wallets with 50,000 NEM in each of them then give me the keys to those wallets (by letting them create the wallets i figure it will be easier for them to track to make sure no extra nem goes into them). I will then spam the network until the 100,000 is gone or until the network falls, whichever is first.
Developers - Care to back up your words or would you rather wait till NEM goes live to see what will happen?
As most people know yesterday I spammed the network hard, I wanted to try out what i call block-blocking. Sending out spam to fill the blocks so no one else can (it was the developers who made the 60 transaction limit what did they expect would happen?). For some reason they couldn't understand why i would do that, I explained to them that when NEM goes live it will be attacked. Why? Well it's an alt-coin which the btc crowd doesn't like, there are people tired of hearing about how fair NEM is then having stakes removed and how NEM is going to change the world. I am not saying these are valid points just how some people will look at NEM plus there are also just people out there who like to watch the world burn (stolen movie line).
The developers said that this wouldn't happen when goes live because it will cost real NEM, my point is that it will take no more then 100,000 NEM to bring down the network which really isn't that expensive for someone who doesn't like alt-coins. The developers didn't think this was possible. So my challenge:
The developers make two wallets with 50,000 NEM in each of them then give me the keys to those wallets (by letting them create the wallets i figure it will be easier for them to track to make sure no extra nem goes into them). I will then spam the network until the 100,000 is gone or until the network falls, whichever is first.
Developers - Care to back up your words or would you rather wait till NEM goes live to see what will happen?
I really hope someone wants to pay all these fees after NEM launch.
I'm ready to harvest his blocks :D
As most people know yesterday I spammed the network hard, I wanted to try out what i call block-blocking. Sending out spam to fill the blocks so no one else can (it was the developers who made the 60 transaction limit what did they expect would happen?). For some reason they couldn't understand why i would do that, I explained to them that when NEM goes live it will be attacked. Why? Well it's an alt-coin which the btc crowd doesn't like, there are people tired of hearing about how fair NEM is then having stakes removed and how NEM is going to change the world. I am not saying these are valid points just how some people will look at NEM plus there are also just people out there who like to watch the world burn (stolen movie line).
The developers said that this wouldn't happen when goes live because it will cost real NEM, my point is that it will take no more then 100,000 NEM to bring down the network which really isn't that expensive for someone who doesn't like alt-coins. The developers didn't think this was possible. So my challenge:
The developers make two wallets with 50,000 NEM in each of them then give me the keys to those wallets (by letting them create the wallets i figure it will be easier for them to track to make sure no extra nem goes into them). I will then spam the network until the 100,000 is gone or until the network falls, whichever is first.
Developers - Care to back up your words or would you rather wait till NEM goes live to see what will happen?
I might be missing something here but...
100.000 NEM could max create 50k tx with 1 NEM amount and 1 NEM fee. Assuming the avg of 60 sec. per block that's 840 minutes which are about 14 hours. So the network would be blocked for ~14 hours.
However all i need todo is make a tx with a fee above 1 NEM and it will have a higher priority and your tx can go suck it.
It will take a lot more NEM to block the network for a considerable amount of time by raising the needed fee to a very huge amount.
Pat - what happened when i spammed was that transactions over 60 in a block get put in to a transaction cache which will get put into the next available block. I was spamming so fast that i was filling up the transaction cache which means no matter if your transaction is higher then mine it won't go through until the block or transaction cache has room. Maybe the developers fixed this i don't know.
It doesn't matter if your transaction has a higher priority you will be adding to the network load which will have an effect on the nodes.
there are few issues :
[li]binary protocol is not turned on (but it's ready for quite a long, and we'll probably include it in next build), as it's much easier to view network traffic as json data[/li]
[li]json traffic is not gzipped (that adds to size of data being transfered)[/li]
[li]"attack" didn't really hit developers' main servers, and they servers had no issues dealing with both traffic and TXes[/li]
[li]spamming network with TXes does NOT block the blockchain, as it is the fee that matters, better paid TXes goes first[/li]
[li]however, attack is clearly visible for users, as
[li]users mostly have worse upload/download rates than the servers[/li]
[li]it slows down NCC[/li]
[/li]
hope that addresses at least some of your concerns.
there are few issues :
[li]binary protocol is not turned on (but it's ready for quite a long, and we'll probably include it in next build), as it's much easier to view network traffic as json data[/li]
[li]json traffic is not gzipped (that adds to size of data being transfered)[/li]
[li]"attack" didn't really hit developers' main servers, and they servers had no issues dealing with both traffic and TXes[/li]
[li]spamming network with TXes does NOT block the blockchain, as it is the fee that matters, better paid TXes goes first[/li]
[li]however, attack is clearly visible for users, as
[li]users mostly have worse upload/download rates than the servers[/li]
[li]it slows down NCC[/li]
[/li]
hope that addresses at least some of your concerns.
any timeline when the network is going to be done so it can be properly tested?