How many of you are using webstart in beta

Technical Discussion
#1

We have build almost ready. But we've decided to get rid of webstart.
Instead of it there will be installer, but that's probably gonna take us few days to do.

So we'd like to know how many of you are using webstart, so that we know if we could
make new release already, and prepare installer later, or rather wait with release until we'll have installer ready.

#2

I used the webstart for the first start, but then after that I would use the NEM icon in my applications list. 

(just on this version I went with stand alone because I was having problems otherwise, but would switch back if I could)

I would love an installer.  For people like me a file I download and then click on to install a software is basically the ONLY way I install software. 

I often have said, "If it isn't a one click installer, then I can't install it."

#3

removed the poll, we'll try to make installer, so bear with us for a bit longer

#4

Haven't been using the webstart since the last two betas (since 0.5.4 I guess)?

As long as you include a quick guide, which I believe has already been written, I think most people should not have a problem.

I mean, it basically comes down to simply extracting to a folder and running two batch files. It's not exactly rocket science.

Of course, an installer is going to be a must before official launch, though.

#5

i used to use webstart for convenience but i started using stand alone all the time a while back. was just easier to see what was going on. it would be cool if the installer allows your to "show" Nis and NCC show in command prompt like it does with stand alone.

#6

I used webstart to begin with but now use standalone. I have a feeling that the vast majority of noobs would find it easier with an installer / webstart than standalone. To this end we testers may not be a good sample so I think you are doing the right thing

KC

#7

Yes, I am also only using the stand alone, because I really disliked the behaviour of the webstart version (expceptions in java properties etc…). And I want to be able to check the config files manually, too.

Btw: When you build the installer, please make sure to set the user directory for windows not to
%USERPROFILE%\nem
but to
%APPDATA%\nem

#8

#9

Btw: When you build the installer, please make sure to set the user directory for windows not to
%USERPROFILE%\nem
but to
%APPDATA%\nem


you mean nem data directory? (that is something related to nis/ncc itself, not the installer, that's why I'm asking)
#10

[img width=525 height=404]http://i.imgur.com/EdM2tI5.png[/img]
Looks good!

I like using the standalone, webstart never worked for me and I like seeing the output.
#11


Btw: When you build the installer, please make sure to set the user directory for windows not to
%USERPROFILE%\nem
but to
%APPDATA%\nem


you mean nem data directory? (that is something related to nis/ncc itself, not the installer, that's why I'm asking)

Ok I thought it would be possible to set the data directory in advanced settings in the installer... (would be nice!?)
#12

looks great gimre! looks like it will be much easier for new users to use. and similar to the vast majority of installers so it will be intuitive to install. great job. :slight_smile:

#13

I feel really happy knowing NEM will have an installer!

#14

i am using NOM, still supported by Bill Gates. Speed does not relly
bother me. You can do something else while it is starting.

#15

Used to use the webstart in the older versions. Then got tired of waiting for NIS to boot up so did the standalone in the new version. Much faster :stuck_out_tongue:

#16

I also like the "idea" of an installer but i am having problems with the mac version on all 3 of my mac's (os versions 10.7.5, 10.9.5, and 10.10.3) the one running 10.9 has never had nem on it, the other 2 had been using the webstart and worked great but the installer version never starts NIS and NCC i just get the grey nem logo at the top.  any chance of getting the websart back?

#17

@Bonz: We need the nis/ncc/monitor logs to help you. Could you provide them to us?

#18

@Bonz: We need the nis/ncc/monitor logs to help you. Could you provide them to us?


where would i find them?
#19

fount them (i asume you want the logalpha.properties)

NIS is:

<br /><br />handlers = java.util.logging.FileHandler<br />.level = INFO<br /><br />java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler.formatter = org.nem.core.deploy.ColorConsoleFormatter<br />java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler.level = INFO<br /><br />java.util.logging.FileHandler.formatter = org.nem.core.deploy.j<br />java.util.logging.FileHandler.limit = 100000000<br />java.util.logging.FileHandler.count = 100<br />java.util.logging.FileHandler.pattern = ${nem.folder}/nis/logs/nis-%g.log<br /><br />java.util.logging.SimpleFormatter.format = %1$tY-%1$tm-%1$td %1$tH:%1$tM:%1$tS.%1$tL %4$s %5$s%6$s (%2$s)%n<br /><br />

NCC is:

<br /><br />handlers = java.util.logging.FileHandler<br />.level = INFO<br /><br />java.util.logging.ConsoleHandler.formatter = org.nem.core.deploy.ColorConsoleFormatter<br /><br />java.util.logging.FileHandler.formatter = org.nem.core.deploy.NemFormatter<br />java.util.logging.FileHandler.limit = 100000000<br />java.util.logging.FileHandler.count = 10<br />java.util.logging.FileHandler.pattern = ${nem.folder}/ncc/logs/ncc-%g.log<br /><br />java.util.logging.SimpleFormatter.format = %1$tY-%1$tm-%1$td %1$tH:%1$tM:%1$tS.%1$tL %4$s %5$s%6$s (%2$s)%n<br /><br />

the is no file for mon

#20

No, he is talking about files which are named like this:
nis-0.log
ncc-0.log

You find them in /Users/nem/nis/logs/ and /Users/nem/ncc/logs/