you should clearly point out that the new sub is the "Core Dev Team" subreddit. You seem to have forgotten to clearly label it as such.
[url=http://www.reddit.com/r/nem]r/nem is the community subreddit. It was established more than one year ago, soon after NEM was announced, and it is maintained by the community members and users like you.
Moves like these pictured below only serve as a malicious attempt at dividing the community.
Why would a NEM user try to convince others to move away from a sub, instead of just invite them to one more,
is almost unreasonable.
It would a be nice and polite move from the "Core Dev Team" to add a link on their subreddit pointing to [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/nem]r/nem, very much like [url=http://www.reddit.com/r/nem]r/nem has one pointing to yours. Starting crusades to drive users away from the community subreddit has no real point.
Unless there is something else at play, behind the curtains.
Hello okaynow,
we tried to explain to you several times, that we have a policy about running social media sites. The policy is: Never have a single person as a full administator. The reason for this is rule is simple: Sometimes people are simply not available, but urgent things have to be done. Or a person loses access completely (whatever the reason can be), or simply the person loses interest in maintaining the site.
We explained these reasons to you repeatedly, but you refused to share administrator rights for r/nem. That is why now the official subreddit is
[url=http://www.reddit.com/r/ournem]reddit.com/r/ournem
And there is nothing you can do about it. You missed the chance, when we asked you before you forced us to this decision.
Yes r/OurNEM is run by the core team, yep! 
Hello okaynow,
we tried to explain to you several times
You mean, you tried to impose it three times, and hit a wall.
Yeah, i dont deal well with ultimatums blackmails and sockpuppets, so there's that XD
Creating accounts and trying to push people out, just because i denied moderation rights to users ready to abuse them speaks volume of your motives and what your idea of moderation rights is, this is also easy to see.
Could you give me an "official" response regarding the rumblings of your sockpuppet, whose messages i posted above your post or is it too painful to watch?
There is no need to argue, the web is big enough. The dev team can have its sub, and the community can have an independent community sub.
Run by the community itself.
Governed by the voters, and not by the "approved moderators"
If you find it so difficult to understand it, no worries. People do understand it.
You can show your support by adding a link, in your Core Dev Team subreddit.
Also, you can add a link to the r/nem giveaway, so that you can help raise awareness.
Unless you don;t want such a thing.
https://forum.ournem.com/promotion-activism/reddit-giveaway-help-promote-xem-outside-of-crypto!/
Being a marketer is a fine line between politician and snake oil salesman. It is great we have a full team of marketer's, but we also need to make sure that all voices are heard, not just all the good circle jerk stuff.
Nem might be a movement and all; but we all have different motivation, expectations and goals. There is more then enough room for everyone. The moment we allow the protocol to discern between those goals, we have lost.
Nemly yours,
There is more then enough room for everyone.
A voice of reason!
thank you kind sir.
@okaynow:
It is sad that you still try to defend your behaviour with dirty tricks. But ok, that is your choice.
Again: We tried to contact you several times and you repeatedly refused to agree on our very reasonable policy to have more than 1 administrator for a social media site. There were no sock puppets and no blockmails. But yes, there was an ultimatum and that was for a simple reason: Launch was coming and we had to get our social media links fixed (e.g. for this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ClzvI5EFss).
Nobody stops you from running your own private NEM related reddit. But I personally will not support you, because your behaviour is at least childish, maybe even a bit shady (wrong accusations, answering us that we could be anybody and we should send PGP signed messages although we told you to contact the core team via the official #ournem IRC channel to make sure we are not "anybody" etc.).
ok mixmaster, keep mixing sadness with arrogance.
Dirty tricks, as in creating sockpuppets an trying to push users away, or raising ultimatums right?
You know well about those black tactics, keep at them.
The screenshots are posted, talk to us about bluefin18
This is your "centrally coordinated NEM" trying to divide the community. Keep it up mate!
This is another one of your "central coordinators". I asked him and you to pgp-sign your attempts, so that you can stand by your own words beyond any reasonable doubt.
Trying to spin that as if i am the one asking anything from you is, childish as you said.
As for the "private" sub, we both know which is the private sub, who is pushing for moderated threads, who is changing forums and boards every three months mixmaster. Some of us have been here since the beginning, unlike certain sockpuppets.
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this is really weird. obviously someone wants total control here. would NEM rather it be in the hands of one or the many?
this is really weird. obviously someone wants total control here. would NEM rather it be in the hands of one or the many?
That is the whole idea, more subreddits improve the decentralized nature of nem and expose NEM to more people.
The core dev team can go ahead with its subreddit.
The community can go ahead and create as many as its users want.
it is weird that as he has stated, he will not support an already established sub, simply because he did not get mod rights. And if he had gotten them, what kind of acts should the community expect, with that kind of attitude?
Struggling to gain control of our sub is what flinted this weird confrontation.
www.reddit.com/r/nem is the first subreddit that was created for nem, established in 2014.
It will remain in the hands of the community. If mixmaster wants to create a personal vendetta, what can i say...
The hostility that is projected by mixmaster et al against me and r/nem is inexplicable and weird, i agree to that.
NEM has more to lose by such childish confrontations, there is no need for such behaviour.
That is the whole idea, more subreddits improve the decentralized nature of nem and expose NEM to more people.
Decentralization has up and downsides.
We are not stopping anybody from creating subreddits or ANY community driven site. But we DO want official channels for the main social media networks for a very simple reason: There is a lot of scam in the crypto scene and the only way to help people trust any information is to have trusted sites/people. Unfortunately your behaviour gives me the feeling, that I cannot trust you, because you repeatedly refused to share admin rights for the site although we explained to you very clearly why this is needed for an OFFICIAL site. If you don't want r/nem to be the official site (which now happened, because you forced us to that decision), that is fine. But I PERSONALLY will not support you or your channel, because for me your behaviour looks shady. I do NOT speak for the team or anybody else, when I say that I personally will not support you.
it is weird that as he has stated, he will not support an already established sub, simply because he did not get mod rights.
Another wrong accusation (people should slowly understand why I think your behaviour is shady). The reason is of course NOT because you didn't pass mod rights to me (I wouldnt care if it was any other trusted dev/marketer/community member, you still seem to not understand this). The reason is: Because your behaviour doesnt seem upright to me, beause of wrong accusations ("blackmail" is one example, there never was a blackmail) etc.
Also:
You didn't trust the people who wrote messages to you to ask you for mod rights. That is fine, that is why we invited you to trusted channels (telegram, IRC) to convince yourself that the core team DOES stand behind that decision (to have more mods for any official social media site). You refused to do that but made a senseless proposal to use PGP signed messages (btw not to me... I have no sock accounts.). I myself or anybody could have sent you a signed PGP message, but then that wouldn't have proved anything, because there is no proof for the authenticity of any PGP signature - or tell me where you find our PGP signatures....... Conclusion: You were playing games, and we didn't have the time for these games (which we also explained, since launch was close and we had to get our social media sites fixed).
Maybe I really have to explain to you again:
Blackmail would be: Give mod rights to XY or you will lose your stake. (this is what of course did NOT happen)
Blackmail is NOT: Please give mod rights to XY, because [reasons here]. Otherwise we will start another subreddit as the official subreddit.
-> This is no blackmail, because we didn't force you to do anything. We just told you under which conditions WE would do something (run a new subreddit or use the one you created a long time ago together WITH you).
There was no hostility at all against you. This is another wrong accusation, which shows your shady behaviour.
I will now stop discussing with you, since I believe I explained it already very detailed and I can now only repeat myself.
I myself or anybody could have sent you a signed PGP message, but then that wouldn't have proved anything, because there is no proof for the authenticity of any PGP signature - or tell me where you find our PGP signatures.......
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Well, this is somewhat embarassing...
So, you are in a cryptocurrency forum, a forum where technologies based on cryptography are explored and used, working to hard to implement blockchain-related applications, yet you cant seem to grasp the concept of pgp and you are saying that a pgp-signature would not prove anything... Yet, you want people to trust you?
You could just admit that you don't know how to use pgp. That would save you the time you spent to type the quoted embarassing statement.
mixmaster, you should follow up on your words and stop discussing.
It's laughable to say a subreddit is "of the community" with only one mod. Your motives are questionable as those that contacted you did so in a professional and respectable manner. Best of luck to you, hopefully you will keep the "community" sub more up to date now.
Haha, man… ;D Alright, you made it… I will answer one more time - just in case anybody who reads this could possibly think you are right about what you write regarding PGP signed messages… 8)
PGP signed messages are basically a proof that a certain private key was used to sign that message. Or with other words: It is a proof, that the sender is in control of the private key, and this can be veryfied if one has the according public key. Since we never published any public keys via a trusted channel, this would help nothing.
It is exactly the same as if we would meet, you don't know me and then you tell me to sign a document (yes with sign I mean handwriting sign). Ok, I can do that… So then you look at the signature, and then what? 8) This is just ridiculous. And it is even more ridiculous, because we suggested to you a way to make sure we are not "anybody" but really the persons who we appeared to be by meeting in a trusted channel like IRC #ournem where registered and known nicknames are used.
But yeah, keep going. I guess some fun for all of us won't hurt 
It's laughable to say a subreddit is "of the community" with only one mod. Your motives are questionable as those that contacted you did so in a professional and respectable manner. Best of luck to you, hopefully you will keep the "community" sub more up to date now.
It seems that you are under the impression that the moderators form & define the community.
I'm afraid i do not share that view.
And as you very well know, but very conveniently ignore, my objection on giving moderation rights to the core team is exactly the fact that if all communication channels are under the core team control, then there is no room left for the community to have a voice.
8279 blocks have passed since launch and the hostile behaviour from your part as a core team continues.
Another fact that you very conveniently ignore, is that a subreddit is not a forum.
A subreddit is governed by the users, that form the community.
Posts and opinions are voted up or down by the users based on their opinion on the subject at hand.
The reddit moderators are not there to impose their views, they are there to uphold the reddit rules.
As you very well know, and as i showed in the screencapped conversation with one of your team members, moderation rights are not a prerequisite for participation in reddit.
Users can post, upvote and downvote as they please, they do not even have to be subscribed to a subreddit,
in order to vote.
As you can see, anyone can post in the subreddit. It is open to the community and anyone can participate.
It is open to both friends and foes, helpers and critics alike.
That is what makes it the community subreddit. Not the fact that the moderators approve themselves.
@mixmaster, i see you discovered pgp. Keep reading, because you have a lot to learn.
@okaynow
If I create a new company and want to promote it in public I would not wan't someone like you to taint my name/logo!
By your writings in here you are clearly hurting the project more than is good!
It might be that you are a nice guy in real life, and you try to come across as grown up and professional, but you are failing dramatically the more you roll in it!
You have turned it into your own little mudslinging battle, and seem to enjoy that you sit on the NEM name (in Reddit), even when you can see that they are actually right, and that you really should not be tricking people into thinking you are the official team. The NEM name is their right, so you should hand it over and be a good sport, before you destroy your own name more than you like.
The community is big and growing and the majority will not go easy on people who try to be someone who they are not.
The NEM project/devs own the NEM name and logo and you have no right to roll forward and trick people into thinking you are THE thing!
If I were the NEM project/developer I would also be furious that my project name and logo are being smothered by your silly little agenda.
Give it up and give the project their rightfully created and owned name!
You are a disgrace.
TBH if I were part of the official NEM team I would seriously be closing in on kicking you out of their forum to prevent you from further rolling around in here and messing up their good project.
People would understand that sometimes it is necessary to stop someone from creating havoc, even in an open decentralized community, if it will hurt the community.
@okaynow:
there were clear and absolutly comprehensible conditions to run an official reddit of nem. you don't wanted to accept them - so live with the consequences!
and if you can't do this, my request to you would be: please sign out here and reign over your unofficially reddit, on your own. but stop harming the real community by trying to infiltrate us with your one-man show!