Man. I am happy to not have your job... I would like to express my condolences. ::)
agreed +1
agreed +1
sad to see my stake and the one for my loved one has been taken away. I have signed up for NEM on the first thread when a coworker of mine mentioned NEM to me.
Now we all registered from the same notebook (only one with NEM client)after work.
we are not sockpuppets or dumpers. we even plan to make a german nem portal www.nemster.de (under construction) and were planning to offer bounties for people to help us install blockexplorer etc.
Can you tell us how many sock stake you had?
Do you have any proof that you are all unique people who will contribute to NEM?
I am a little sympathetic to somebody who bought a NEM address for a website. I think we need people like that. That said, I realize the website was probably a play to gain sympathy and I am not sure how many socks were registered.
I am sure you all are better researchers than me. It looks like the website was registered back in May, but basically left dormant until yesterday when all the content was loaded. I can't be sure, but that is how it looks from [url=http://whois.domaintools.com/nemster.de]http://whois.domaintools.com/nemster.de
Also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=232274;sa=showPosts screams of sockpuppet.
It was created just to register for NEM. Then the next post is to say they were ripped off by Gox for dust. It just doesn't seem right to me. Somebody who left dust in Gox, would have been capable of depositing, trading, and then withdrawing, yet there is no other post history?
In any case, he wouldn't answer our questions. So he is genuinely, err...a scammer.
sad to see my stake and the one for my loved one has been taken away. I have signed up for NEM on the first thread when a coworker of mine mentioned NEM to me.
Now we all registered from the same notebook (only one with NEM client)after work.
we are not sockpuppets or dumpers. we even plan to make a german nem portal www.nemster.de (under construction) and were planning to offer bounties for people to help us install blockexplorer etc.
Can you tell us how many sock stake you had?
Do you have any proof that you are all unique people who will contribute to NEM?
I am a little sympathetic to somebody who bought a NEM address for a website. I think we need people like that. That said, I realize the website was probably a play to gain sympathy and I am not sure how many socks were registered.
I am sure you all are better researchers than me. It looks like the website was registered back in May, but basically left dormant until yesterday when all the content was loaded. I can't be sure, but that is how it looks from [url=http://whois.domaintools.com/nemster.de]http://whois.domaintools.com/nemster.de
Also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=232274;sa=showPosts screams of sockpuppet.
It was created just to register for NEM. Then the next post is to say they were ripped off by Gox for dust. It just doesn't seem right to me. Somebody who left dust in Gox, would have been capable of depositing, trading, and then withdrawing, yet there is no other post history?
In any case, he wouldn't answer our questions. So he is genuinely, err...a scammer.
Actually i ended up unlocking one stake. Like i said...it's all done via pm.
sad to see my stake and the one for my loved one has been taken away. I have signed up for NEM on the first thread when a coworker of mine mentioned NEM to me.
Now we all registered from the same notebook (only one with NEM client)after work.
we are not sockpuppets or dumpers. we even plan to make a german nem portal www.nemster.de (under construction) and were planning to offer bounties for people to help us install blockexplorer etc.
Can you tell us how many sock stake you had?
Do you have any proof that you are all unique people who will contribute to NEM?
I am a little sympathetic to somebody who bought a NEM address for a website. I think we need people like that. That said, I realize the website was probably a play to gain sympathy and I am not sure how many socks were registered.
I am sure you all are better researchers than me. It looks like the website was registered back in May, but basically left dormant until yesterday when all the content was loaded. I can't be sure, but that is how it looks from [url=http://whois.domaintools.com/nemster.de]http://whois.domaintools.com/nemster.de
Also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=232274;sa=showPosts screams of sockpuppet.
It was created just to register for NEM. Then the next post is to say they were ripped off by Gox for dust. It just doesn't seem right to me. Somebody who left dust in Gox, would have been capable of depositing, trading, and then withdrawing, yet there is no other post history?
In any case, he wouldn't answer our questions. So he is genuinely, err...a scammer.
Actually i ended up unlocking one stake. Like i said...it's all done via pm.
If he has more than 4, unless he can show proof otherwise, I would lock more than one. You are generous.
sad to see my stake and the one for my loved one has been taken away. I have signed up for NEM on the first thread when a coworker of mine mentioned NEM to me.
Now we all registered from the same notebook (only one with NEM client)after work.
we are not sockpuppets or dumpers. we even plan to make a german nem portal www.nemster.de (under construction) and were planning to offer bounties for people to help us install blockexplorer etc.
Can you tell us how many sock stake you had?
Do you have any proof that you are all unique people who will contribute to NEM?
I am a little sympathetic to somebody who bought a NEM address for a website. I think we need people like that. That said, I realize the website was probably a play to gain sympathy and I am not sure how many socks were registered.
I am sure you all are better researchers than me. It looks like the website was registered back in May, but basically left dormant until yesterday when all the content was loaded. I can't be sure, but that is how it looks from [url=http://whois.domaintools.com/nemster.de]http://whois.domaintools.com/nemster.de
Also https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=232274;sa=showPosts screams of sockpuppet.
It was created just to register for NEM. Then the next post is to say they were ripped off by Gox for dust. It just doesn't seem right to me. Somebody who left dust in Gox, would have been capable of depositing, trading, and then withdrawing, yet there is no other post history?
In any case, he wouldn't answer our questions. So he is genuinely, err...a scammer.
Actually i ended up unlocking one stake. Like i said...it's all done via pm.
If he has more than 4, unless he can show proof otherwise, I would lock more than one. You are generous.
That particular cluster would now have 3 stakes. Even if that were socks it would still be under the threshold we've been operating.
I'm also curious to know how much stakes were confiscated, and more importantly what will happen with these stakes.
Since there is a lot of money on the line with the launch of Nem, transparency and dialogue with the investors is important.
We have no exact numbers yet as potential sockpuppets can come and explain what happend. If their explanation is reasonable and most importantly believeable we might unlock some of those stakes again.
What will happen with those isn't decided either.
We have been nothing but transparent the whole time so that is nothing anyone needs to worry about.
well its looking like knowing this information isnt as urgent as i first thought.. seems the shit storm i thought would come wont be nearly as bad as i thought it would be..
People are PMing me instead of posting here.
Keep up the good work Pat, doing a great job. ;)
How many stakes are being confiscated?
If we are looking at an excessive amount of unclaimed + confiscated stakes across the board I'm starting to think distributing some to legit stake holders is the only thing to do.. Seriously..
Unclaimed and returned stakes (from socks) should both be treated separately.
Have you guys decided how to treat returned stakes? If not I think a decision needs to be made as fast as possible before this explodes with accusations of money grabbing..
It needs to be decided, but I think treating them the same as the previous socks makes the most sense and is the most justifiable. No need to treat these socks as being different.
But the last lot went to people on the waiting list afair.. That's not possible now.. Can you give a number on the amount that have been confiscated? That number is of huge importance.
Actually, you're the only person making a big deal of this right now :)
Eh of course it is a big deal? What happens to every single NEM stake is of high importance! If this is supposed to be a decentralized coin I think transparency is extremely important.
I agree, of course it is a big deal and this question still has not been addressed.
How many stakes are being confiscated?
If we are looking at an excessive amount of unclaimed + confiscated stakes across the board I'm starting to think distributing some to legit stake holders is the only thing to do.. Seriously..
Unclaimed and returned stakes (from socks) should both be treated separately.
Have you guys decided how to treat returned stakes? If not I think a decision needs to be made as fast as possible before this explodes with accusations of money grabbing..
It needs to be decided, but I think treating them the same as the previous socks makes the most sense and is the most justifiable. No need to treat these socks as being different.
But the last lot went to people on the waiting list afair.. That's not possible now.. Can you give a number on the amount that have been confiscated? That number is of huge importance.
Actually, you're the only person making a big deal of this right now :)
Eh of course it is a big deal? What happens to every single NEM stake is of high importance! If this is supposed to be a decentralized coin I think transparency is extremely important.
I agree, of course it is a big deal and this question still has not been addressed.
Gimre addressed it in a post on btt. As best as can be done with present knowledge at least.
How many stakes are being confiscated?
If we are looking at an excessive amount of unclaimed + confiscated stakes across the board I'm starting to think distributing some to legit stake holders is the only thing to do.. Seriously..
Unclaimed and returned stakes (from socks) should both be treated separately.
Have you guys decided how to treat returned stakes? If not I think a decision needs to be made as fast as possible before this explodes with accusations of money grabbing..
It needs to be decided, but I think treating them the same as the previous socks makes the most sense and is the most justifiable. No need to treat these socks as being different.
But the last lot went to people on the waiting list afair.. That's not possible now.. Can you give a number on the amount that have been confiscated? That number is of huge importance.
Actually, you're the only person making a big deal of this right now :)
Eh of course it is a big deal? What happens to every single NEM stake is of high importance! If this is supposed to be a decentralized coin I think transparency is extremely important.
I agree, of course it is a big deal and this question still has not been addressed.
Gimre addressed it in a post on btt. As best as can be done with present knowledge at least.
And Pat addressed it on the page before: https://forum.ournem.com/index.php?topic=2620.msg8495#msg8495
Just for the matters of transparency, with how many stakes are puppet masters left, when they are caught?
Just for the matters of transparency, with how many stakes are puppet masters left, when they are caught?
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Nice Work.
;D
I read the devs had founded a way to make some kind of filter, and it was announced on the BTT.
I really figured it would have really more complaints.
