Has there been some whales or transactions in loops or smtg, or any plans for such testing? Manually that could be done, if we choose someone, to whom will be sent big amounts of NEMs. Or making manually several TXs during some hour.
I hope that KingCole (or some other volunteer) would have time to accomplish something :-\
I think stress testing is a great idea. Get some bots going crazy on the network.
Burn them all!
It will increase the value of the remaining stake and it is the fairest solution
I don't think we'll end up burning them. Right now it looks like creating an investment fund and paying dividends to stake holders is going to be the way we go, for a least a lot of the stakes (depends on the number of unclaimed stakes, of course).
djinou94: Increasing the value of the remaining stakes by burning them is unwise since the value of NEM increases in the long term if more people use it and therefore it is better if more people have it.
about the stress testing.. on the week end of 25th - 26th il have my laptop back so i could have a shot at configuring my bot to just send shed loads of transactions.. not 100% i can do it but i can give it a go. im not sure how many tx i could send a min, that would only be limited by the response time of the ncc. would there be any need to vary the amount being sent? or vary the amount paid in tx fees?
I posted this on the main thread at BTT. Reposting here.
The downside of giving money to harvesters is that it just looks like we are giving more NEM to the original stake holders as they will be the most likely to harvest and that this really doesn't actually help the NEM ecosystem, but that isn't exactly how I see it.
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My suggestion was to take a very small amount of the unclaimed stakes, like less than 1%, and set it aside for small block rewards. ...
I posted this on the main thread at BTT. Reposting here.
The downside of giving money to harvesters is that it just looks like we are giving more NEM to the original stake holders as they will be the most likely to harvest and that this really doesn't actually help the NEM ecosystem, but that isn't exactly how I see it.
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My suggestion was to take a very small amount of the unclaimed stakes, like less than 1%, and set it aside for small block rewards. ...
damned ... I thought that POI itself solves this "forging is unfair" problem
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1268.45.html :)
My NCC has been harvesting with "0.17% importance of account to the NEM cloud" about a week and earlier about 3 weeks. No money gained, though there has been fees for a million? NEMs (at least I set once a fee of 333345 NEMs).
With 0.17 % I would have expected to get something during these months, but maybe it is not so. I guess the case will be clearer after the POI is published (white paper or something will be coming out).
I posted this on the main thread at BTT. Reposting here.
The downside of giving money to harvesters is that it just looks like we are giving more NEM to the original stake holders as they will be the most likely to harvest and that this really doesn't actually help the NEM ecosystem, but that isn't exactly how I see it.
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My suggestion was to take a very small amount of the unclaimed stakes, like less than 1%, and set it aside for small block rewards. ...
damned ... I thought that POI itself solves this "forging is unfair" problem
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1268.45.html :)
My NCC has been harvesting with "0.17% importance of account to the NEM cloud" about a week and earlier about 3 weeks. No money gained, though there has been fees for a million? NEMs (at least I set once a fee of 333345 NEMs).
With 0.17 % I would have expected to get something during these months, but maybe it is not so. I guess the case will be clearer after the POI is published (white paper or something will be coming out).
You should have harvested a lot of blocks. Problem is, very few people are on the test network, so not many transactions.
I posted this on the main thread at BTT. Reposting here.
The downside of giving money to harvesters is that it just looks like we are giving more NEM to the original stake holders as they will be the most likely to harvest and that this really doesn't actually help the NEM ecosystem, but that isn't exactly how I see it.
...
My suggestion was to take a very small amount of the unclaimed stakes, like less than 1%, and set it aside for small block rewards. ...
damned ... I thought that POI itself solves this "forging is unfair" problem
https://nextcoin.org/index.php/topic,1268.45.html :)
My NCC has been harvesting with "0.17% importance of account to the NEM cloud" about a week and earlier about 3 weeks. No money gained, though there has been fees for a million? NEMs (at least I set once a fee of 333345 NEMs).
With 0.17 % I would have expected to get something during these months, but maybe it is not so. I guess the case will be clearer after the POI is published (white paper or something will be coming out).
You should have harvested a lot of blocks. Problem is, very few people are on the test network, so not many transactions.
ok? ... so with 0.17% in few months, I would have harvested many blocks (and got their fees), but because the testnet has so few transactions, my expected harvested money has not come true.
I looks like that I have harvested 0 blocks. ( Strange? )
If the 1st block will come, then the gained money is exactly the fee of that transaction(s) ?
If it is so, then POI is affecting only to the % importance, which affect to the probability to harvest the block(s). (yea... these are possibly written in some FAQ somewhere :-\ )
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Do you have a screenshot of your harvested blocks list from the client?
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Do you have a screenshot of your harvested blocks list from the client?
Do you mean that "fork and knife" view?
The title is
"Harvested Blocks <Harvesting>
Fees earned from the last 25 harvested blocks
0.00 NEM"
In list is quite many blocks ...
So, I do have harvested some blocks?
But nothing is earned.
I have checked only incoming money, and all of those are from persons' accounts, I think.
How would harvested money be shown in the wallet's transactions?
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Do you have a screenshot of your harvested blocks list from the client?
Do you mean that "fork and knife" view?
The title is
"Harvested Blocks <Harvesting>
Fees earned from the last 25 harvested blocks
0.00 NEM"
In list is quite many blocks ...
So, I do have harvested some blocks?
But nothing is earned.
I have checked only incoming money, and all of those are from persons' accounts, I think.
How would harvested money be shown in the wallet's transactions?
Yes, you have harvested those blocks but if there have been no transactions, there will be no fees and therefore you get no reward even if you do harvest that block. This is mainly because nobody is really using the alpha testnet right now in anticipation of the very soon to be launched beta. After beta and ESPECIALLY after distribution of everyone's actual NEM, I think it will likely be fairly rare to see blocks with 0 fees. At least, much more rare than the current alpha.
I also got some blocks with fees. In the alpha I harvested almost 50 blocks or more with no fees ever. I've already hit a couple big fee blocks in the beta. But yes, most blocks are still empty.
In starting the harvesting was something "strange": the 1st click did not work, but after the 2nd, it started harvesting. Idk if it relates to the 24 hours rule .... ?
In starting the harvesting was something "strange": the 1st click did not work, but after the 2nd, it started harvesting. Idk if it relates to the 24 hours rule .... ?
This has nothing to do with the 24 hours rule since it works if you click again. I'm having this problem, too. So I opened an issue on Github: https://github.com/NewEconomyMovement/NemCommunityClient/issues/151
I harvested a lot of blocks but got 2 big ones with 1000 and 2003 in them. 
Looks like my good harvester days may be gone…
the early bird effect may be decreasing as others start also harvesting with their big wallets
My importance 0.13% has decreased to
"0.08%importance of account to the NEM cloud"
… let's see if that is enough for harvesting blocks.)
Looks like my good harvester days may be gone...
the early bird effect may be decreasing as others start also harvesting with their big wallets :)
My importance 0.13% has decreased to
"0.08%importance of account to the NEM cloud"
... let's see if that is enough for harvesting blocks.)
Looks like my good harvester days may be gone...
the early bird effect may be decreasing as others start also harvesting with their big wallets :)
My importance 0.13% has decreased to
"0.08%importance of account to the NEM cloud"
... let's see if that is enough for harvesting blocks.)
How many nem are you harvesting with?
Looks like my good harvester days may be gone...
the early bird effect may be decreasing as others start also harvesting with their big wallets :)
My importance 0.13% has decreased to
"0.08%importance of account to the NEM cloud"
... let's see if that is enough for harvesting blocks.)
How many nem are you harvesting with?
First I had 1.5 M (importance 0.13%), harvested about 10 blocks (4 + 4 NEM)
now during last 16 hours had about 2.5 M (importance 0.08%), harvested about 4 blocks (0 NEM)
I guess this kind of statistics devs are? collecting automatically...
harvested NEMs = function( balance, harvesting time, ... etc etc ) so that there is no need to make statistics by "outsiders" like it was with NXT's forging :)