I'll put my vote where my mouth is

I’ll also pledge my vote in what ever direction this goes. :slight_smile:

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I see the POI polls to vote for the election but they are whitelisted.

I thought it would be open to all?

Those are not POI pools, those are for eligible registered members. Unfortunately that’s what we have for now.

NEM != NEM Foundation
NEM community != Paid members
NEM = NEM community

Lets vote with PoI, as it should be!

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Please use this guide and help us to improve and translate it to as many languages as possible. Video tutorials and other helpful materials are welcome.

Detailed guide Is published both in form of medium post here
https://link.medium.com/WTkjgLnPxS

and below for discussion and proposals on it’s improvements:

NEM Foundation COMMUNITY Unofficial POI vote Voting Guide

A step-by-step process on how any XEM owner can vote in the 2018 NEM Foundation COMMUNITY Unofficial POI vote (Elections)

1. GENERAL INFORMATION
Introduction to the COMMUNITY Unofficial POI vote
The 2018 NEM EGM (Elections) will take place on Friday, December 14th, 2018 at 8 am UTC with the purpose of electing the new Executive Committee (ExCo) and new Council Members of the Foundation. Voting begins Dec 10th and ends 14th December at 8:30 AM UTC.

During same period of time COMMUNITY Unofficial POI vote will happen for all same position following exactly same rules yet for all XEM owners.
Voting details are listed below.

For the purpose of the election, the NEM Foundation has organized a EGM (Extraordinary General Meeting ) which will be accessible through the ZOOM link provided to the eligible members in the EGM notice. Please pre-install the ZOOM app prior to the meeting at https://zoom.us/.

COMMUNITY Unofficial POI vote will have it’s own POI-vote meeting zoom link that will be announced on Telegram chats t.me/nemred and t.me/nf2_0.
Note: Voters are not required to attend the EGM and POI-vote meeting to make their vote count. The EGM and POI-vote meeting are only a formalities, and attending the EGM and POI-vote meeting is optional.
What Is The NEM Council?

The NEM Council is a group of elected individuals who come together to discuss the needs of the NEM Foundation and NEM technology platform. This includes a cooperative spirit that allows the NEM Foundation to reach a consensus on issues that impact the sustainability and future of NEM Foundation.
Positions And Candidate Information
There are four (4) elected members of the Executive Committee (ExCo): The President, the Vice-President, the Honorary Secretary, and the Honorary Treasurer.
There are six (6) Council Members that shall be elected. The top 6 candidates who have the most votes shall be elected as Council Members.
Candidates who will have the most votes per position shall be elected in office.
Candidates policy documents for the 2018 ExCo and Council candidates can be found HERE.
The Candidate voting guide can be found HERE.

  1. VOTING
    How To Vote
    Voting will take place on the NEM public chain using the NEM Wallet (a new update from the NanoWallet which is found on the NEM website at https://nem.io/downloads/).
    Step 1: We don’t ask all voters to upgrade to the latest version of the Nanowallet yet it’s always nice to have latest software, get it HERE .
    Important! You don’t need latest version to vote, it was tested with past versions including 2.1.2 or later. The Nanowallet is compatible with OSX, Windows and Linux.

Extract the zip file and double-click “start.html”. Please do not use Microsoft Edge browser, it can result in the loss of your wallet. We recommend Google Chrome or Firefox.
Note: Here’s a helpful video on how to update your wallet if it has been an extended time since last use.

Step 2.
On the main landing page of the NEM Wallet, go to the upper left navigation bar where it says “SERVICES”. Click on this and then scroll below to the service called “VOTING”. You will see a link called “SEE POLLS”. Click on this link.

Step 3. All eligible members will have 6 polls listed in their NEM Wallet where their account is whitelisted. The 6 polls are:
COMMUNITY President Voting Poll
COMMUNITY Vice President Voting Poll
COMMUNITY Secretary Voting Poll
COMMUNITY Treasurer Voting Poll
COMMUNITY Council Voting Poll Part 1
COMMUNITY Council Voting Poll Part 2

Please note that due to technical limitations it was necessary to split the vote for council in two polls. Both polls are multiple choice and polls will be tallied during the EGM.

Step 4. The results from the six election polls will only be counted as definitive once the polls have ended and are counted from historical data. At the POI-vote meeting, the 6 polls will be audited.

3. VERIFY YOUR VOTE
How You Can Verify Your Vote
Voting results will be made public. Therefore every vote will be verifiable on the NEM public blockchain.

4. TROUBLESHOOTING
If you have any issues with the Nanowallet, please reach out to us on Telegram at Helpdesk. https://t.me/nemhelpdesk.
Other Helpful Tips:
Getting Started on the Nanowallet Video
How To Update Your Wallet Video — Warning! Remember to back up all your .wlt files and/or private keys before upgrading your wallet!
Nanowallet Documentation
If you have any other issues voting or have concerns, please email us at support@nem.help.

5. FAQ
Is a vote change allowed? What happens if someone changes their vote? Is it possible to send a second transaction manually? Answer: Only the Council positions are multiple choice. For Council it is possible to add votes for more candidates but a vote that was cast can not be removed. For the ExCo polls, it will not be possible to make any changes since they will not be multiple choice.
What will happen if someone tries to vote using old Nanowallet (for example 2.3.2)? Answer: It will work for POI-voting.
Is it allowed to vote for the President on one day, the VP the next day and then the Council 1 + other ExCo and Council 2 on another day? Answer: As long as the vote is done within the predefined time it’s ok. There are six different polls so it’s ok to cast the vote at six different times.

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We’ve lost NEM, watch the full video, again and again, to understand how NEM again can get from one to many (screenshots from youtube link quoted above):
image

Copy this link to youtube video above and send it to everyone who has even 0.05 XEM and shares it with a few words from your heart.
Everyone has to see video @Xpedite posted, listen to it carefully and do just that.
For now, it’s just to

  • give POI vote now using this simple guide
    *in case you are eligible member hold your vote for now

The leader doesn’t have much role, and it doesn’t matter who started the movement, @Xpedite, @nembit86 or @JohnGalt You are the hero, who follows the movement first and who joins in after it.

Disclosure: I am the person who’ve initiated COMMUNITY POI vote and, I did it as I believe that NEM is community first and foremost.
NOT group of people who control community being afraid that NEM community that gave them job leaves them on the street without their job,
** NOT** (probably nonexisting) Singapore laws prohibiting POI,
** NOT** even NEM Foundation itself and for sure
** NOT** few people those ~200 members eligible for EGM vote.

More on why I initiated COMMUNITY POI vote in my candidacy forum thread: Misha Granin for Vice President (at least for a day, so we all can create NEM Foundation 2.0)

PS Next best thing you can do after giving POI vote now is think of ideas how this message can be spread globally to everyone one who ever had NEM, they all have some importance for us now, and yes, they have some importance score too.

  • Should we make a separate thread or even section on the forum for this?
  • Should we make simper shorter guide?
  • Should we send messages on NEM blockchain to inform about POI?
  • Should we contact in person each Telegram account in our chats?
  • Should we record videos about it? Do infographics? Post on all our channels?
    Don’t just look for ideas or share them, start implementing what you can.

It’s not about this candidates now; it’s about NEM community showing to the world and itself that it still exists.

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You know what would be awesome ? To give the community a permanent, virtual council seat. One virtual member of the council, always votes according to a vote on the chain. There’s some kinks to work out but I think that’d be pretty cool :slight_smile:

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If you mean POI vote I think its great idea.

So is the poll now up? I see there’s one in the wallet but I’m unsure whether it’s the ‘official’ one.

Yes, it’s not official, but it’s primary, and we hope that no one will spam/split it as its polls already got way more voters then officially registered members elections. For more info read the guide on how to vote there https://link.medium.com/WTkjgLnPxS or vote as you see the right thing. This screenshot demonstrates it:

I noticed that the POI votes expire at the same time as the official vote.
As a result I won’t be able to wait until expiration of the POI vote in order to cast my vote in the official poll.

I will wait as long as possible but I advise everyone to vote by POI as soon as possible.

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Done! Thank you.

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Intermediate PoI results:

Alexandra Tinsman 1.61%
Stephen Chia 0.08%

Misha Granin 1.18%
Nelson Valero 0.18%

Jason Lee 0.30%
Laura Takenaka 1.04%

Jeff McDonald 0.5238%
Anton Bosenko 0.3591%
Laura Takenaka 0.2499%
Bartlomiej “Tony” Sanak 0.2499%
Ricardo “Trikar” Medrano 0.2355%
Mark Price 0.2314%
Julian “Brain” Vettermann 0.2173%
Hiroki “Ninja” Koga 0.1875%
William Tan 0.1533%
Jason Lee 0.1122%
Manfred G von Nostitz 0.1119%
Klim Geran 0.0981%
Pedro Gutierrez 0.0885%
Hongbin “Thilon” Ma 0.0784%
Kimble Ngo 0.0474%
Steve Li 0.0339%
Mark Burbach 0.0314%
Xiangyu “Kevin” Li 0.0187%
Josia Engelbrecht 0.0160%
Alvin Chua 0.0104%
Emerson Fonseca 0.0082%

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Thank you Kristof for pointing out mistake I’ve made. To make sure that those who really wait for results and are online don’t miss deadline I’ve informed via short NEM transaction message all voters from whitelist that POI vote won’t end before end of official vote. I was creating POI vote and didn’t state it in description.

Here is what whitelist addresses got from me:

**Don’t wait for results of http://bit.ly/POIvote , it won’t be over before deadline of official vote. **
PLEASE VOTE WITHIN …
**POI vote confirmed that official vote might not represent the opinion of NEM community. **
Council members who didn’t allow POI vote get a significant difference in results:

Nelson:
68% official
8% POI vote

Stephen Chia
47% official
3% POI vote

I hope that people don’t miss deadline waiting for results of POI vote, as of now around. I see that speed of votes that come increased and by now approximately 6 more votes came to each pool since that message was sent a few minutes ago.

As promised , I voted according to the POI vote.

Alexandra Tinsman 1.61%
Misha Granin 1.18%
Laura Takenaka 1.04%

Jeff McDonald 0.5238%
Anton Bosenko 0.3591%
Laura Takenaka 0.2499%
Bartlomiej “Tony” Sanak 0.2499%
Ricardo “Trikar” Medrano 0.2355%
Mark Price 0.2314%

So these people got my vote.
At least for Mark Price the POI vote made a difference. In the official vote he was only one vote ahead of Emerson which based on the POI vote would certainly not be a desirable outcome.

I want to thank everyone that voted in the POI vote.

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Final PoI results:

Alexandra Tinsman – 2.56480%
Misha Granin – 2.23018%
Laura Takenaka – 1.53343%
Dona Rinon – 0.38109%

Jeff McDonald – 1.03785%
Mark Price – 0.62173%
Anton Bosenko – 0.54973%
Bartlomiej “Tony” Sanak – 0.34822%
Ricardo “Trikar” Medrano – 0.33568%
Julian “Brain” Vettermann – 0.28021%

This is NEM community choice!

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POI results:

Official results:

President: Alexandra Tinsman
Vice-President: Nelson Valero :triangular_flag_on_post:
Secretary: Jason Lee :triangular_flag_on_post:
Treasurer: Dona Rinon

Hiroki Koga :triangular_flag_on_post:
Jeff McDonald
Anton Bosenko
Pedro Gutierrez :triangular_flag_on_post:
Steve Li :triangular_flag_on_post:
Mark Price

The contrast between POI and the official vote is pretty stark. I’m really dissapointed Trikar and Tony didn’t make it. That just honestly really sux.

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COMMUNITY Unofficial POI vote results

POI relative percentage of elected ExCo members

President
Alexandra Tinsman
97.47%
296 out of 364 votes

Vice-President
Misha Granin
92.72%
202 out of 307 votes

Honored Secretary
Laura Takenaka
74.11%
136 out of 259 votes

Honored Treasurer
Dona Rinon
100%
76 votes

POI score of elected council members:

Jeff McDonald
1.03785%
212 votes

Mark Price
0.62173%
117

Anton Bosenko
0.54973%
110 votes

Bartlomiej “Tony” Sanak
0.34822%
69 votes

Ricardo “Trikar” Medrano
0.33568%
91

Julian “Brain” Vettermann
0.28021%
65 votes

Note: Laura Takenaka elected as Secretary. Otherwise, she would be Council member with the following the result
0.35565%
85 votes

Results were collected and approved by participants of COMMUNITY Unofficial POI vote meeting that took place today, December 14, 2018, from 9:20 to 9:40 AM UTC

Interesting notes:

  • We see a vast difference in the results of POI vote with results of whitelist results up to 8.4 times.

  • POI vote did affected whitelist vote results. Here is most obvious example: Mark Price would not be on Council as he was elected in POI vote and was elected in whitelist elections with 56 votes, while Emerson Fonseca, who was not elected in POI vote, got 55 votes and was not elected.

PS Special thanks to Kristof for supporting this POI vote in all possible ways, original idea of such vote itself, and starting this topic on forum.

I’m sad for some, happy for others.

It’s a much better result than I was expecting considering all the barriers and weirdness thrown up and dug up. It looks like a bunch of listeners and doers and that’s what’s been badly needed since forever.

I’m feeling optimistic.

Well done and congrats to those who won, those who voted, those who did some detective work and Kristof for suggesting the PoI angle as the result would be extremely different without everyone mentioned.

Mr Chia wrote that Foundation can add more Council members if they decide so.

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